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Peeling Potatoes #25 — “A Friendly War, Fought With Laughter”

Fridays, live. Two chairs. One clock. And a running joke about who’s keeping score.

Janita calls it an obligation; Frank calls it trust. Between those two words is the whole temperament of Peeling Potatoes — mischievous, generous, and brave enough to put tenderness on the table. This episode is billed as a “generational war,” but what it really becomes is a masterclass in staying human while the world keeps updating.

We drop in mid-smile. Frank — the Mayor — is in France; Janita’s in South Africa. The month’s theme is “skills.” Today: survival. Not the flint-and-tinder kind. The kind you need when your Wi-Fi drops, your kitchen is loud with opinion, and your playlist is arguing with your past.

There will be five rounds, promises Janita, each with five questions. Janita will keep score. “Totally unbiased,” he deadpans — and you can hear the grin.

“Who had it harder,” Janita opens, “waiting for dial-up… or surviving when Wi-Fi drops for five minutes?”

They both remember the modem’s metal shriek and the patience it demanded. But it’s 2025, and today’s pain isn’t waiting — it’s the interruption. “Five minutes offline,” Janita says, “and it feels like falling off the map.” Frank concedes the point with a story: a show they once did with zero internet. Improvised everything. “It was a brilliant masterclass,” he says — proof that survival isn’t a connection; it’s a choice.

Reflection: When was the last time you worked with what you had — and discovered it was enough?

Next volley: phone books versus Google. Frank doesn’t argue data; he argues romance. The heft. The alphabet. The sense that a city was a single, thumbable universe. You could find a plumber, a piano teacher… or — he teases — a future partner. “With Google,” Janita counters, “you don’t need storage. You need a search bar.” Still, she grants the point. Phone books weren’t efficient; they were human.

They move to thumbs — stronger from texting or from rewinding cassettes with a pencil. “Soon,” Frank says, “we’ll be back to hieroglyphics. Emojis as language.” Janita sighs about voice notes. People don’t listen; they broadcast. For a moment the room is quiet. The joke landed on something tender.

Takeaway: Listening is a survival skill. Broadcasting is not.

Scoreboard: Round One to Janita’s generation — on Wi-Fi panic alone — with an asterisk that reads: improvisation beats outage.

“Who had better music,” Janita asks, “when lyrics made sense or when beats took over?”

Frank does not hedge. “I fail to see how Taylor Swift is so popular,” he says, pre-apology not included. Janita laughs. “I second that.”

But the argument isn’t really Swift; it’s story. The 70s and 80s wrote narratives you could sing. Melodies you could borrow for courage. Today can feel like brand before ballad. And yet — when they trade names (Queen, ABBA, AC/DC), the distance collapses. Germany still votes “Bohemian Rhapsody” to the top. Janita blasts “Thunderstruck” loud enough for her husband to give her that look. Somewhere in there, both of them become teenagers again.

“True romantic DJ?” Janita prods. “Mixed tape or playlist?”
“Mix tapes,” says Frank, no hesitation. “Waiting for the right song to hit the radio. The frustration. The care. It was an act of love.”
Janita nods. “Playlists are efficient. Mix tapes were human time.

They choose an anthem for their “war.” Frank goes for “We Are the Champions.” Janita counters with “Thunderstruck.” Two energies, one grin: defiance meets voltage.

Reflection: What’s the soundtrack you reach for when you need to survive a day?

Round Two goes to the Mayor — not because nostalgia wins, but because intimacy does.

Food is where people tell the truth.

“Better snacks,” Janita asks, “our sugary mysteries or your gluten-free halos?”

“Sugar,” says Frank, shameless. “Snacking is sinning. Sinning should be enjoyable.”
Janita’s laugh says amen. Enjoyment matters. Regret does not.

Homemade meals or Uber Eats? “Fresh is better. Always,” Frank replies. Cooking isn’t complicated; it’s attention you can taste. On trends, they take a compassionate swing. Frank picks Dubai chocolate — gorgeous, green pistachio inside, absurd price outside. “That’s not food; that’s marketing.” Janita raises him a black-as-midnight scoop: charcoal ice cream. Detox in a cone. Does it turn your tongue black? (No.) Does it turn your head? (Yes.)

Lunchboxes? Both confess to humble fare: jam on white bread for her; rye with salami for him, fused by summer heat into one nostalgic geology. “Gordon Ramsay would cry,” Janita says. “And swear,” Frank adds.

If they had to cook for one another tomorrow? “We’d both survive,” Janita decides. “You’d make something classic. I’d bring the spice.” Frank agrees. Every generation believes their mother was the best cook; that creed holds.

Reflection: What do you feed a friendship to help it last?

Round Three: the Mayor by a forkful — but it feels like a shared plate.

One fashion question before the clock wins: neon jumpsuits or ripped jeans that cost the earth?
They refuse the binary and declare a draw. Ripped jeans confuse them both; onesies are banned for eternity. Sanity: 1. Trends: nil.

The best moment in the episode isn’t a joke. It’s an ethic.

“What if we swapped phones for a week?” Janita asks.
“I’d be puzzled,” Frank says, honest. “And I wouldn’t look. Curiosity isn’t entitlement.”

He recalls an accidental glimpse into her messages when they tried linking numbers. You can hear the recoil in his voice — not from scandal, but from crossing a boundary he hadn’t intended to cross. He logged out as fast as a reflex.

Janita’s answer is equally clear: she’d answer the calls, respond to what matters, and leave the rest alone. Arm’s-length respect goes both ways in this friendship, and it is not performative.

They tell other small truths along the way: the cost of getting locked out (and the hilariously expensive ice cream that caused it), losing car keys in Brussels, blocking cold-call numbers without shame, a son asking for tuck-shop money when the car has already parked, a stolen winter ice cream confessed to a mother in the shape of a question (“Can ice cream make you sick in the cold?”).

And then — the line that keeps ringing after the credits:

“People don’t listen anymore. They just broadcast.” — Janita

It’s what makes this duo rare: they do both. They broadcast and listen. They spar and then make space. They tease and then tend.

Takeaway: Privacy is a kindness we give each other so conversation can stay brave.

By the final tally, tech goes to Janita, music and food to the Mayor, fashion ends in a truce — and the “war” turns out to be a hug in armour. Frank says what older friends often say to younger ones, but he says it without heat: “Your generation has good in it. We just don’t understand it yet.” Janita answers with the line that could close the season: “Some things are endless and timeless — music, movies, connection.”

Only this duo could make a scoreboard feel like a love letter.

So yes — it’s a show about survival. But not the survival of “my era” against “yours.” The survival of us — the fragile, funny us that keeps trying to bridge screens, decades, and appetites with a little grace.

If you’re new to Peeling Potatoes, start here. It’s the sound of two people refusing to let difference become distance. Miss a Friday, and you’ll feel the absence. Tune in, and you’ll hear your own life being gently re-explained back to you.

  • When the connection drops, practice improvisation instead of panic.
  • Use fewer voice notes. Or at least, make them shorter. Then, listen.
  • Cook something simple and fresh for someone you love. Call that survival.
  • Keep a little mystery. Curiosity doesn’t mean entitlement.
  • Build a playlist that explains you — and then make one that confuses you on purpose.

Your turn: If this were your friendly war, what would be your anthem? And what small skill — listening, cooking, laughing — will you choose to keep you human this week?

Peeling Potatoes. Fridays. Only this duo can pull it off.

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